Posts by Open mind

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How long does it take to get reinstated ?
by Pitchess Co-Gen in
1. jw
2. experiences
i was think about getting reinstated, and then do a fade right after because of family ties..
Open mind

Here's a quote that most elders here will remember from KM schools:
"The degree of discipline should be commensurate with the degree of deviation."
In congos I've seen in Northern California that translates to what several have already stated.
3 months minimum (and very rare).
6 months-1 year is typical for run of the mill porneia.
Sky's the limit if you were an elder who was repeatedly deceitful with the BOE.
A local BOE let a DFed former elder hang out to dry for SEVEN YEARS before they finally let him back in.
The former elder had numerous affairs on his JW wife and lied about it for years. Hence, the seven year smack down.
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Appealing a disfellowshipping - any experience
by dozy in
1. jw
2. friends
anyone had any experience of a successful appeal against a disfellowship?

a friend of mine feels he has been dfd unjustifiably & is considering an appeal.

he probably has something of a case - the jc was a total shambles - but i'm very dubious that he has any likelihood of success.. my only experience of a successful appeal is when elders in a neighbouring congregation were appointed by the co & overturned a df in our congregation a few years ago.
Open mind

Terry's points are well made.
Your friend has 7 days from the original JC before the DF is announced. During that time your friend can tell the elders that he wants to appeal. Some more fairly local elders, probably from a neighboring congregation, will handle the appeal. If your friend's "presentation" is perfect, he's 100% repentant and/or denies the charge and they don't have good enough evidence, he might prevail. Most of the time, local appeals don't work though. The JC that ordered the DF, will likely be involved in selecting who the appeal committee will be. In that process, they will color the appeal committee's opinion ahead of time.
I am aware of a DFing that was "rescinded". The person was announced as DFed and then began written correspondence with the Branch. It took several months, but eventually the branch told the elders to announce that the "Disfellowhipping of Joe Blow has been rescinded".
Oh to have a video of all the WTF?!? looks on the congo's faces.
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(pm me if you want more details)
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WTS action on Conti's case 3/27/2013
by mind blown in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
as most suspected, the wts filed their brief, at least it looks that way..... http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/dockets.cfm?dist=1&doc_id=2025979&doc_no=a136641.

it also notes aob in excess of word count limit.. wonder if they did that to buy more time?.
Open mind

Any guesses on how long before the substance of WT's brief will become public knowledge?
(I don't see going to the court and paying for a copy in my near future.)
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Good Friday, bloody good times had by all
by designs in
1. social
2. current
penitants from all over the world will reenact the crucifixion scene with some literally being nailed to a cross.

others will walk on their knees bleeding, holding candles, saying prayers.

in thousands of churches around the world the mel gibsonish scene of a pulverized jesus will pull at the emotions of christians.. as jws we always saw this rather bloodless sanitary nordic looking jesus to deal with but within the catholic and protestant churches this is their week to go full on corporal.. what do you suppose the fascination is with the crucifixion..
Open mind

For the English speaking Christians out there, I think the name of the day would make a little more sense if it was changed to "Holy Friday" as it is in Romance Languages or "Sorrowful or Suffering Friday" as it is in German.
http://catholicism.about.com/od/Good-Friday/f/Why-Is-Good-Friday-Good.htm
Just my $.02.
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New light Watchtower magazine leaked from organization weeks ahead of general release
by cedars in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
http://jwsurvey.org/governing-body-2/new-light-watchtower-magazine-leaked-from-organization-weeks-ahead-of-general-release.

if doctrinal explanations are missing from the article, it is because they are also missing from the magazine.. i would like to give my thanks again to my source for supplying me with the magazine article weeks ahead of its scheduled release.

it showed remarkable courage, because risks were taken.
Open mind

*marking*
Thanks so much Cedars.
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CONTI CASE : Kathleen Conti Just commented on a Facebook Xjw group
by BlindersOff1 in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
kathleen conti just commented on a facebook xjw group that "watchtower gets no more extensions".

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https://www.facebook.com/groups/xjwrg3/10151371194950835/?notif_t=group_comment.
Open mind

I have no legal expertise at all, but this made me smile:
"Watchtower Bible & Tract Society's AOB in excess of word count limit."
(Insert OUTLAW's snickering pooch Mutley here.)
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Gumby?
by talesin in
1. jw
2. friends
miss you, bro.

just in case you still lurk, i wanted to let you know.

i'm doing much better now, and no longer have the 'brother' issues.
Open mind

Dear Gumb:
Hope your nut sack is still in good shape.
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Tom Waits
by glenster in
1. social
2. entertainment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny3k8dqth1m.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxyyeuz5fw8.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avpnjx4yi2s.
Open mind

"Champagne for my real friends.
Real pain for my sham friends."
Tom Waits
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Shiver Me Timbers I Gots a Bible Study Matey!
by RayPublisher in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
the new wt 2013 june tells kids that they might get to study with a pirate someday!

perhaps johnny depp will be resurrected for just that purpose?.

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Open mind

"Apparently", The Watchtower has left the "peg leg" question unanswered for now. If Blackbeard had one on his left leg, the Art Dept. cleverly inserted a pillar in front of it. Aaaaaarrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhh!
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NOT on JW.ORG: Who currently owns the Judges' Beth Sarim 4440 Braeburn Rd San Diego ca 92116?
by Balaamsass in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
the other thread on the judge rutherfords death lead me to google beth sarim at 4440 braeburn rd., in san diego ca.

nice digs on google earth.

the home next door is over $800,000 on zillow and trulia.
Open mind

Right near the front door there's a big, dark, metal oval-shaped placque that says "Beth-Sarim, Home of the Princes". It's a registered Historic Landmark in San Diego County.
I'm pretty sure you can see the placque on Google street view.
When my son and I visited a couple years ago and took a few disrespectful photos, there were people home and they didn't have the JW "vibe" at all. But you never know.
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